Secrecy and mistrust still surround the trade deal negotiations in Hawaii where the New Zealand team has been hoping for … well, who knows? It’s too secret for us to be told until it’s all signed up on our behalf. That’s if it’s ever going to be all signed up. Meanwhile, Moana Maniapoto is keeping us up with the play.
Mahalo, as they say in Hawaii. Let’s be grateful that those TPPA negotiators have reached for the brake pedal – and opted for a cup of tea and a lie down.
At a press conference yesterday in Hawaii, representatives from the 12 TPPA nations admitted they hadn’t nailed the deal. But they would carry on talking to try settling their differences.
Stalled but not defeated, is the assessment of Jane Kelsey, the Auckland University law professor who has kept an especially close eye on developments.
It was the big kahunas – Canada, USA, Japan and Mexico – who couldn’t come to an agreement on two deal breakers. One was auto (vehicle manufacturing). And dairy was the other.

Minister of Trade, Tim Groser
Our trade minister, Tim Groser, didn’t down tools because of his concerns about the Treaty of Waitangi. Or intellectual property. Or Pharmac. Or workers’ rights. Or because he’s worried that the right of future New Zealand governments to make policy may well be constrained. Or because they could be hauled off to an overseas disputes tribunal by corporations seeking compensation for loss of projected profits.
One of the reasons he dug his toes in is because even the tiny gain we have been fighting for isn’t looking much chop.
Tim says he won’t back a deal that doesn’t significantly open dairy markets, but he’s confident negotiations will eventually find the “sweet spot” on dairy. The Dairy Companies Association of New Zealand commended him for standing firm. Andrew Hoggard, the Federated Farmers dairy industry chairman, described the deal as looking “disastrous” for New Zealand – which is fascinating, given that the farmers are New Zealand’s justification for flogging off nearly everything else we have in the cupboard.
People from all walks of life, not just Māori, are up in arms about much more than just a stink deal for dairy. Two muso mates of mine dropped in to watch the rugby the other night. They opened up a conversation about the lack of transparency, loss of democratic rights and sovereignty. You have to wonder at the arrogance of a government, mid-cycle to the 2017 elections, calculating that we, the voters, will forget.
Certainly, for now, the TPPA acronym is on everyone’s lips.
There are open letters flying everywhere – to Heads of State (NZ Māori Council), to both the PM and Tim Groser. (One is from the Labour Party, another from Action Station). The letter that’s had the most publicity was an epistle from Hone Harawira to President Obama, the man whose fast-track consent from the US Congress sent everyone into a tailspin. Even Mediaworks is riding the wave of popular opinion with polls on flagship radio and TV programmes showing overwhelming opposition to signing.
As we wait for the Waitangi Tribunal to decide whether to move to a full hearing on the Crown’s actions regarding the TPPA, there is an urgent application to the High Court for judicial review. Jane Kelsey is joining with Consumer NZ, Ngāti Kahungunu, the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists, Oxfam, Greenpeace and others to challenge Tim Groser’s blanket refusal to release any of the categories of information sought by her under an Official Information Act request on January 25. We saw the blanket ban in action when our lawyers tried to source documents before our Tribunal claim was filed.
No wonder the Minister is getting a bit hoha.
“This is a moving game and we need adults to do this, not breathless children to run off at the mouth when the deal is not actually finished,” he said, rather breathlessly himself.
In my view, that’s the sound of a man who’s spent most of his life working on the deal of the century and is way too close to it.
The thing is ordinary people are now getting some sense of what our country stands to lose. The PM helpfully admitted this week that, well, yes, medicine costs are likely to rise. So the big question is what is in it for New Zealand?
While the PM and his Minister of Trade have trumpeted the economic gains for our agricultural sector, the US Department of Agriculture crunched the numbers into a different reality. They said that, if all trade barriers were flattened to zero across all 11 countries – which will never happen – the best case scenario was that New Zealand could expect a rise in GDP of 0.01% by 2025.
I was never much good at maths, but that doesn’t sound too flash to me.
Just over a week ago, the Waitangi Tribunal held a judicial conference to consider the question of urgency. They began the hearing by asking claimant counsel why our claim was filed so late in the day. Our lawyers said the claims were not filed late. It was the Crown who hasn’t left enough time in the process to engage with claimants.
We say the Crown has breached their obligation under the Treaty of Waitangi to proactively engage with Tangata Whenua. Information retrieved under the Official Information Act revealed that the Crown ticked off an encounter at a hui where one unnamed woman spoke at the end of scheduled presentations. No formal or informal records of this can be found. The Crown also said they consulted with Ngāti Kahungunu, much to the surprise of that iwi who had written to the Crown and asked to be kept in the loop. They never heard back.
The Tribunal asked to see the text of the TPPA, especially the special Treaty of Waitangi exception clause that the Crown says protects Māori rights under the TPPA. The Crown refused, on account of the TPPA being secret and all.
The Tribunal said they would keep any documents confidential. The Crown refused on the basis that it was all too complex.
I’d be thinking the Crown is shooting itself in the foot here. You can’t assert, on one hand, that consultation has occurred, and then, on the other hand, refuse to divulge anything on the grounds of secrecy.
So the Tribunal gave it another shot.
They issued a formal direction that the Crown and claimant counsel work together to appoint an independent expert with experience in international trade and investment law as well as a sound knowledge of Treaty of Waitangi issues. The suggested person was a well-respected QC who would advise the Crown on whether the Treaty of Waitangi exception clause is adequate. (The Crown says they always include it in free trade agreements but won’t confirm that the others have accepted it into the TPPA.)
Our lawyers worked up a proposal and sent it to the Crown lawyers. But it was a no from them.
Their reasoning? They told our lawyers that “seeking to engage with the other parties on the Treaty of Waitangi clause at this late stage could result in parties seeking to revisit other issues of significance to New Zealand, which New Zealand had considered were concluded.” And they further advised that “there is no guarantee that changes (even minor) would be acceptable to the other parties at present.”
Yet they’ve been peddling the idea to New Zealanders that once it’s signed, we can start the debate – and have our say.
The media, thanks to Jane Kelsey, finally started to unpick that mythology this week – thanks partly to the blundering of Mike Hosking, a host of the ironically named Seven Sharp. He showed that it’s not especially clever to skip your homework when discussing the secrecy around the TPPA with a woman who’s a world authority on it.
“That’s how all trade deals work,” he declared. Jane pointed out that, apart from the wee fact the TPPA goes way beyond an ordinary trade agreement, she’s counted at least five major agreements that weren’t secret.
Here’s something else that Mike didn’t bother to find out. The fact is that we don’t get to debate and fine-tune the TPPA after it’s signed. That suggestion is a red herring. It only needs the Cabinet to ratify it, not Parliament. A vote is only needed to change domestic law to realign with any new needs of the TPPA. And, if we decided we wanted to change a clause in the TPPA, New Zealand would have to negotiate with 11 other countries. Once the deal is done, it can’t be reopened.
That’s led to an interesting question/observation from Doug Kidd, a former National Party Minister and now a Waitangi Tribunal member: “So poor old tino rangatiratanga goes down the gurgler again?”
The Tribunal has enough evidence to make a decision on whether to grant urgency and move to a full hearing, and will make their decision as soon as is possible. Looks like we’ve got a window to be heard now.
And we’ve got an admission that there’s a lot at stake. The Minister of Trade has declared that New Zealand won’t be pushed out of the agreement, particularly after he had downgraded his demands and made some “very large compromises.”
The reality is the Waitangi Tribunal can only make recommendations to the Crown. We know this. But at least we are putting on record the serious breach by the government as well as their disregard for the people who they are meant to serve.
And, in a sense, we’re also putting on record that, while most of us aren’t interested in reading the actual text ourselves, we do want clever, well-informed people who we trust – people who are independent of the negotiators – to be fully engaged in the process on our behalf.
MORE INFO
Jane Kelsey on Seven Sharp - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MblZU5nMZIE&feature=youtu.be
TPPA action week - http://itsourfuture.org.nz/campaigns/tppa-action-week-8-15-august/
UPDATE: Tuesday, August 4
On Monday, August 3, our cluster of five claimant groups (who had applied for an urgent Waitangi Tribunal hearing on this TPPA issue) received the Tribunal’s decision that, for the moment, it is declining such applications.
This decision was “based on the assumption that the Hawaii meetings will conclude the negotiations and that our (the Tribunal’s) window for inquiry will be a narrow one.”
We think the window has opened - and that this issue will be fully heard before the Tribunal.
It’s very clear from the report that the Tribunal sees the need for a serious look at the text and treaty exception. The Tribunal also had real concerns as to the “adequacy of the Crown’s engagement with Māori over the TPPA.”
The Tribunal sees the scope for “significant prejudice to Māori” and made the comment that the Crown is treating Māori as domestic “stakeholders,” rather than “Treaty partners.” The Tribunal also says the Wai262 report had made recommendations about international agreements, and that the Crown has made no domestic policy changes as a result.
Right now, it’s all about timing.
The Tribunal said that, if the TPPA is not concluded and still delayed until after the 2016 United States presidential elections, the Tribunal will hear from parties and will likely hold a full hearing. In this situation, it is possible the Tribunal will order the Crown to supply the text to them confidentially so they can assess how prejudicial it may be for Māori.
If the TPPA is concluded in late August or early September and the text is then released, the Tribunal will hold a focused hearing on whether the Treaty of Waitangi exception protects Māori, and what Māori engagement is necessary prior to ratification of the TPPA.
It’s important to remember that only the Cabinet (not Parliament) is needed to ratify the TPPA. And, secondly, that, although the Crown said in the hearing that the clause was a “bottom line”, it still hasn’t confirmed that the clause has actually been accepted by the other partners to TPPA. And, thirdly, no independent party has been able to see this clause, let alone assess it.
The Tribunal found that there is a strong case for an urgent hearing following the release of the text because:
(a) The TPPA is substantially different from previous free trade agreements. The effectiveness of the Treaty exception clause in such a different agreement is unclear and untested.
(b) The confidentiality requirements of the TPPA negotiations do not prevent ministers and officials from providing information and documents to persons outside the Government including Māori. It is just New Zealand's negotiating practice not to do so.
Claimant counsel Kathy Ertel said, after negotiations in Hawaii failed to reach a conclusion, and with three big obstacles blocking a deal, the Crown had to concede that there was a realistic window for an inquiry.
The Crown of course, disputes this. It is consistent if nothing else.
The Crown says that the timetable remains the same. Our lawyers say that media reports from other countries contradict that assertion and they plan to dispute this. They also say that the Crown has adopted a confrontational approach to opponents of the deal, and asked for a hearing on the level of consultation Māori can expect when the Crown negotiates such agreements.
So we’re some way from the finish. It ain’t over, until it’s over.
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When a minister of the crown
When a minister of the crown has to resort to attacking the opposition to his plans and not address the fears his non disclosure produces in the electorate he has very little to offer. Anyone can sink to abuse but to do this to assist his own doctrine is in extremely bad taste. Any politician signing the TPPA wthout first putting it to parliament should be charged with treason
Thankyou for the heads up
Thankyou for the heads up Moana.
Kia ora Moana for putting
Kia ora Moana for putting this into a language that we can all understand.
There is new age Hepatits
There is new age Hepatits medication that was to be funded by the Minister of Health Dr J. Coleman (the undertaker,the grim reaper) through PHARMAC to be available through hospitals now, but because the TPPA wasnt settled and the Americans want the business the availability has been “put on hold as we need to do more work on it” EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN CLEARED BY MEDSAFE!!!
As I said Its been cleared by Medsafe and is available here if you are wealthy enough but the government wont help those of us that dont have up to $100,000(drug Co,s profiteering) for the 12 week course. There are 50,000 Kiwis that need the help NOW (according to Hep Foundation) to try and stem the tide of this silent killer epidemic. Under the capitalist model its cheaper to let us die. This is a direct consequence of the TPPA and the government preparing the ground for the USA. There is blood on the TPPA document already. In the future wether You live or die will be in the hands of people in Washington.
We shouldn’t sign up for this
We shouldn’t sign up for this if we still can’t honor the countries founding document the treaty of waitangi. Not allowing your treaty partner to the table is not on.
Well said Mo. Tautoko. Where
Well said Mo. Tautoko. Where’s Campbell when you need him.
Kia kaha, Moana. And bless
Kia kaha, Moana. And bless Jane Kelsey. Interesting that it’s our cartoonists, rather than our journos, who have helped wake us up to the threat. I have so missed John Campbell during the past fortnight.
Awesome Moana..who better to
Awesome Moana..who better to tautoko this global kaupapa..!!
That was clearly put. Thank
That was clearly put. Thank you Moana!
Tim Grosser’s assurances won
Tim Grosser’s assurances won’t stand the test of “Light” in my opinion. I’ve read hundreds of articles and watched as many video’s regarding TPP (ours) the European Mirror agreement the TTIP, the WTO govt procurement agreement (the bad one ) &TiSA (the really bad one).
They all are bad for New Zealand in the majority of the industries involved.
This 2015 Trade Barriers report by Michael Froman the US Trade representative points at the fact that we have a $281 million goods deficit and a $3.81 Billion Services deficit with the US now & lowering the behind the border “Trade Irritants” Like govt policy’s on food regulations, environment, Labour Law, Financial markets & services regulations , Public Health & Safety will only make that worse.
What’s even more alarming is that it is a direct threat to the reason why foreign countries buy our goods – “That 100% pure NZ” brand by introducing GMO’s or genetically modified organisms into our environment.
US food products have an 80% content of GMO’s we have almost none.
New Zealand is an isolated economy which has developed in way which reflects our geography. It’s more sensitive to the economic forces that drive markets on Continents with large populations, shorter transport considerations and plenty of resources.
John Key & Tim Grosser are risking it all at a huge cost to our Independent Nation Status (because of the Regulation Harmonization and ISDS’s) for the sake of selling a few extra pints of milk?
The TPP is an offense to a Democratic Society like ours where we suddenly have regulations and laws that mirror those in Malaysia, Vietnam, Singapore, Chile and Mexico.
We have nothing in common with Islamic Shara states, Islamic Communist republic’s or Communist Republic’s
The only thing that would be acceptable is if these Trade Deals are opened up to public scrutiny. they have been deliberately silenced by the lobbyist in the US who have openly (quite legal there) brought support of US Congress
There is too many bad things to be said about the TPP to be said here, but the fact that the TPP is not the only Trade Deal that John Key and Tim Grosser have us lined up to sign. And they are all bad!
Thanks Moana. Clear and
Thanks Moana. Clear and comprehensive – Great !
Great article. It’s a
Great article. It’s a related concept in global trade to ask: ‘Does the NZ government’s pro-TPP stance endorse human rights abuses & harmful business practices in other nations?’
Mr Groser’s focus on the supposed benefits of signing pay lip service to this consideration. He may discuss ‘safeguards’ for this country, but that’s not the same as accounting for these harms, plus the effectiveness of domestic safeguards is questionable anyway.
Just an addition to this
Just an addition to this article – intellectual property is the 3rd deal breaker (autos and dairy being the other two) that has yet to be resolved and that’s a particularly sensitive area for Māori. Note there has been no movement on the Wai262 Claim since the Tribunal made its ruling in 2011. Canada has some real concerns over I.P.
Kia kaha tatou, thank you for
Kia kaha tatou, thank you for this article and the enlightment stay strong.
Thank you for the enlightment
Thank you for the enlightment
Kia kaha Tangata whenua.
Kia kaha Tangata whenua. Thank you for taking this lead for us all
kapai
Thanks for the update..
Thanks for the update…hoping some of the other nations reveal any shred of “anything” in this..as we are kept in the dark in USA. Only thing we know is that Monsanto and Big Pharma deeply entrenched. Don’t let GMO’s come to your country…with the associated poisons…not unless you want sickness, death and cancer.
Great article !!
Great article !!
Well said, thank you for the
Well said, thank you for the very readable update and trying with the Tribunal. There is no-one like Jane Kelsey in Australia putting the TPPA in the sunlight